I paid some coder 50 euros to get facebook integration and to help me monetize my site. And you want me to give that info away for free. You want people to spend money on something that should be in the software in the first place.
"All you need is effort, either your own or someone who you've hired to do the work for you. Without that, you're left with what people share for free. Don't like it? Put forth a little effort."
Its not like facebook or adsense are a small part of internet.
I could have understood it if facebook was used by 10000 people. But not when its used by almost everyone thats online. And to tell people that they shall go ahead and pay serious money for something and then expect them to share it for free.. That is pure bullshit. It doesnt help if the software is free if you have to spend 200 euros to get things the way you want them to. Especially when other free software is properly integrated with facebook and easy ways to add adsense.
I mean you guys doesnt even have a proper facebook page for zenphoto. Its evident that you guys are a bunch of nerds that live in your own world.
Quote:I paid some coder 50 euros to get facebook integration and to help me monetize my site. And you want me to give that info away for free.
Who wants you to give something away for free??? And maybe think how much you pay for using Zenphoto...and that you want to monetize your site...
Btw, there are 3rd party facebook plugins available (by micheall, just to mention....)...
Quote:You want people to spend money on something that should be in the software in the first place.
No, what you think should be there. There are loads of things and tools someone might think that should be there. We are an open project. So why don't you contribute what you think is mising? Ah, sorry, that means effort.
If we had added adsense somewhere by default somewhere you probably would be the first to complain it is in that place and then that you need to touch code to place it elsewhere. Well- Again, adding adsense is easy if you know just basics of standard web techniques. If you don't want to touch code stay on predefined services like Facebook.
Quote: Its evident that you guys are a bunch of nerds that live in your own world.
We don't need to get down on this niveau, do we?
"No, what you think should be there. There are loads of things and tools someone might think that should be there. We are an open project. So why don't you contribute what you think is mising? Ah, sorry, that means effort."
No that means i have to learn about php css and such things.
And yes I have tried setting up the facebook plugin. didnt succed and the other option was to use the theme that it was made for. Not an option dont like the look of it. If people have to mess around with things to much to get it to work. They download coppermine instead or some other software.
Quote:No that means i have to learn about php css and such things.
Well, yes, and what is the point? If you don't want to do that then you have to use a service that does everything for you, like Facebook, blogspot, flickr or whatever. There is always an alternative and you never can do it right for everyone.
Quote:And yes I have tried setting up the facebook plugin. didnt succed and the other option was to use the theme that it was made for. Not an option dont like the look of it.
So did you even ask for help as micheall is quite often here...
Facebook pages look all the same while Zenphoto is for individiual websites (and you don't have to "pay" with all of your data to use it! But I know privacy concerns are oldschool). If you are fine with the look services provide use them. But individuality has always its price and in this case it is some personal effort.
You dont want to get my point at all.
I can understand that someone wanting to setup zencart with zenphoto might do some fiddling on their own. Based on how many users that needs that feature.
Facebook on the other hand is used by most likely 99 percent of the zenphoto users. So not to have the option to share pictures or like pictures via facebook buildt in. Is plain silly.
And again. If I pay someone to make a plugin or some other things. Why should I share that for free. Because I am willing to bet that alot of those that downloads this software. Has no programming skills like me. And that means that unless they have a kind friend that can do that. They will have to pay to get things done. Thus they have no sense of giving back to the community.
Thats why I ask are your goal to have as many users possible of this software. Or are you happy with being a small niche.
Quote:They will have to pay to get things done. Thus they have no sense of giving back to the community.
You miss a point here. If someone really coded something for you it is not your decision anyway to share. The coding work is property of its coder (unless he releases it under a free licence like we do...which is the case if it is derived work of a free software like Zenphoto which basically themes and plugin fall under automatically). That as a short roundup on intellectual property rights...
But why should anyone give the code for free that was paid for? Because that is what open source is about! Contribution! Why do you think do we give our work on Zenphoto away? How do you think some of the tools for Zenphoto available happened at all?
Anway, again if you want to run a personal website you have either to learn a few things or get someone to do it. If you want everything in place to use Zenphoto (and a lot of other CMS out there) are not for you. Placing code like adsense or even a facebook like button on html is not really magic or sophisticated knowledge but basic.
